Friday, February 26, 2016

Porn Names and Ugly Students: An Interview with Dr. Libby Newman

By Haley



Today I would like to introduce one of my new contributors, a person I know very well and am excited to be collaborating with: my mom, Dr. Elizabeth Newman.

An Arkansas native, Libby (as she likes to be called by people other than her children), moved to Pueblo, Colorado in the back half of 2015. Recently retired from teaching sociology at the University of Arkansas, she brings an insight and expertise into evaluating modern society.

To learn a little about Libby and what she's all about I conducted a formal-ish interview with her recently to learn a little bit more about what makes her tick.

Beginning of Interview
2/24/16
2:00 PM

Haley: Hola.

Libby: Hola you.

H: So, you have been my mother for about . . . 31 years or so at this point. What's that been like?

[Ed: troublingly long pause.]

L: I can't really say that it's "been like" any one thing. Like all of life, it's been different at different times. Sometimes it's been so rewarding . . . when you were a kid (before the dreaded teen years), and since you've been an adult. Probably not so different from most mother/daughter relationships. The difficulty that you were as a teen was overshadowed by the incredible joy you were as a younger kid. So smart and talented and creative. And those are the qualities I enjoy about you now. So all in all . . . it's been good, and totally worth it!

H: Well that's a relief!

L: Ha!

H: So, in addition to being a parent of me, you also taught college level sociology for many years. Are you glad to be retired from the U of A now?

L: So glad. In retrospect, I can't believe I did it. From the moment I walked into a classroom, to the time the class was over--that time was always magic for me. However, the rest of it was total bullshit. The politics, the pressures. I wouldn't go back for anything. And yes, I have regrets about doing it--at least the way I did it. I would have been happier and more accepted at a small school. But life takes us places we don't necessarily plan, and I can't say how glad I am that that phase of my life is over. (Kind of like having periods. Good riddance to both!)

H: Now, I know that throughout your life you have always been a musician, but now that I've seen some of your archives, it's clear you've been a writer for a long time as well. When did you first start writing?

L: I have things I've written from Jr. High, on which the teacher wrote "Great writing!" When I started college, after I got a few of the techniques under my belt I had been unclear about, I started getting big kudos for my writing skills. I'm pretty sure there were times when my lack of knowledge was overlooked because of my writing skills.

So, maybe I've always been a writer. I was the editorial page editor for my high school newspaper. That helped . . . although, since all I did was write my opinions, it probably helped cement the type of writer I'd be.

H: What are you going to be writing about for this blog?

L: I want to write in some of the same ways that I was writing in some of the things you've seen. To write about current events and topics, but to put a different spin on them. To write about something in an unexpected way. 

When I wrote in support of Mary Kay LeTourneau, for example, she was being totally vilified in the press. So I like to take something that is being looked at one way, and look at it another way. That is usually what I hope to achieve in my writing.

[Ed: She then listed some examples of her contrarian views.]

I like saggy pants.

I think tattoos are sucky . . .

I think the idea that all American kids need to prepare to go to college is patently absurd. I'd like everyone to be a good thinker, but we're not doing sooo many kids any good by pressuring them to go to college.

I think that polygamists should be allowed to marry. I don't think we can give all the wives SS benefits, but they should be allowed to marry.

H: Eh, I only support polyandry, but close enough.

L: I wanted polyandry, but your dad said no. Silly man. Could have had help working on the cars . . . .

H: In joining this blog you have agreed to post your work side by side with mine. How do you think our two different perspectives and styles are going to fit together?

L: Oh, I don't know if they'll "fit together." What does that mean? Perhaps they'll just exist side by side. But, I would expect that yours will be different from mine. I don't know in what ways--perspective, subject matter, analysis, political bent . . . etc. But it really doesn't matter. I don't know that the differences are things we can know right now. Just doing it will be an exploration of the ways we are different. We'll see . . . . That's probably all I can say about it now.' That "fitting together" thing may be somewhat of an evolution.

H: Back to your professorial days. Were you ever interviewed by students for various reasons?

L: I was interviewed every single semester I ever taught. Some idiot in English at the U of A gave students the assignment of interviewing a professor, and I often fell prey to that. But everywhere I've taught, students have interviewed me for one thing or another--the school paper; a paper being written . . . and on and on.

For the one at the U of A, they always asked "Why did you decide to become a sociologist?" As if I ever decided that. Life paths . . . again. I had a pat answer: "because they offered me more $ than the grad programs in anthropology." I mean . . . my god . . . what a question. Can anyone really say why we do anything, lol.

H: Something I always wondered as a kid: did you ever fail a student simply because they were ugly?

L: Absolutely not . . . unless you mean ugly of spirit. That could be accomplished. I actually never failed a student that did not contribute significantly to his/her own failure. However, if a person was tolerable, I would always give a little push to help. If they were not tolerable, then I would let them cast themselves over the ledge, and wave at them on their way down. 

There is nothing more satisfying than giving a grade to an asshole that said asshole didn't want."Gosh . . . you only missed the grade you wanted by .5 points. Sad . . . ."

H: Moving on, if you could be any team member from the 1973 New York Yankees roster, who would you be?

L: Oh, I don't know, because I don't know any of them specifically at this time. However, if you could give me a few names. 'Cause make no mistake about it: 1973 and those years around there were MY YEARS. Probably, though, I wouldn't have been in much for any of the Yankees. 1) they had the unfortunate moniker "Yankee" attached to them; and 2) they were so straight! I was a hippy!

H: A well thought out answer, but incorrect. You would be Sparky Lyle.

L: Okay, then! I like that name. But that is NOT my porn name.

H: And what would that be?

L: Chips Cherry. First pet; first street.

H: That is a legitimately good porn name. OK, final question. What do you want people to think/feel when they read your work, here or otherwise? What do you want them to take away from it?

L: I just want them to think. I just want to spur a little thought that they might not have otherwise thought. For example, there was this thing on Facebook where everyone was making fun of these protesters who had set up signs in front of the milk case at a grocery store, saying that milk kills. "Ha hahaha! What a bunch of dumb asses. They don't know where milk comes from! They think cows have to be killed to get milk! Hahahaha!"  Smug assholes. They don't know anything about the dairy industry, which I've known about all my life (did you know my Dad owned a dairy when I was a kid?). Males are superfluous in the dairy industry. That's where a lot of your McBeef comes from . . . dummies.

So just stuff like that. Trying to get people to think beyond their own categories.That's generally what sociologists do. Jasper [Ed: my brother, her son] wishes we'd just gone to church, instead of doing all that "thinkin'"!

H: Great answer. That's all my questions! You did it! Woo woo!

[Ed: Conversation devolves into mother/daughter talk from here.]

Ending of Interview
2/24/16
2:43 PM

Well there you have it. My mother: funny, smart, and ready to start tossin' around some opinions. Look towards the future for new pieces from her on a wide variety of topics, all of which will be found under the tag "Libby".